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Charqus · Feb 24, 2006, 12:00 PM // 12:00

Well alll the dye coulors are colours of white light so mix em all together and wont ya get white?
I cnat remember if black is tho :P

pegasux · Feb 24, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22

well i finally broke down and tried the formula on my 15k geomancer armor and boy is it waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy off white...lol. I looks more like a gold dye, but still cool. anyone have success at dying 15k geo armor? Would adding like 4 or 5 silvers instead of 3 make it lighter?

Cecil Barracks · Feb 24, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26

Looks pretty white to me...

S E V E R · Feb 24, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Pretty... must look... but not touch...

thenewa2x · Feb 24, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

@Lady Lozza: Yeah, it took a long time to upload. Figured something went wrong.

Lady Lozza · Feb 25, 2006, 12:39 AM // 00:39

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Originally Posted by pegasux

well i finally broke down and tried the formula on my 15k geomancer armor and boy is it waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy off white...lol. I looks more like a gold dye, but still cool. anyone have success at dying 15k geo armor? Would adding like 4 or 5 silvers instead of 3 make it lighter?

The problem is that those of us, and there are a number of us around, who are experiementing with dye still do not fully understand how the base colour of the armour influences the resulting colour. Just when we think we have a hand on it we try something just a little more complex and the results are not what we expect.
We are working on it though. We will let you know if, or when, we manage to come up with something useful.

optical · Feb 25, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41

best white i've seen was yellow + silver + silver + dye remover. Don't use it on you're warrior or your necro...it won't dye properly. Works best for Monks and Eles...I've seen it on a Ranger 15K Druid Armor and it's ok, not the best.

BTW Masseur, White is not the absence of color...black is the absence of color. White is the achromatic color of maximum lightness...

Lady...if you've done any work with Alpah Layers in photoshop or paintshop pro then the base color of armor works very much like a base layer would.

Diablo™ · Feb 25, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

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Originally Posted by optical

BTW Masseur, White is not the absence of color...black is the absence of color. White is the achromatic color of maximum lightness...

Only in the sense of additive color is that true, Color that results from adding light energy is called additive color. Color that results when an object subtracts light energy is called subtractive color, and those yield black when all colors are combined. In subtractive sense (not dealing with light), Black is the combination of all color, and and white is the absense of (subtractive) colors.

These RGB additive colors are a part of the spectrum

These Cyan Yellow Magenta subtractive colors are part of the processed spectrum.

I suppose its a conundrum to figure out whether the "dyes" we deal with are additive or subtractive... in better words, we're dealing with additive colors pretending to be subtractive. As solid oil and paint in reality are subtractive colors, but when we see them on your monitor (light projections), they are techinically additive colors... it all depends how you see it.

optical · Feb 25, 2006, 03:07 AM // 03:07

Diablo...thank you. I did take Color Theory in college. Subtractive colors don't occur naturally....AND far more importantly a computer screen can't display subtractive colors. Computer monitors display additive color..the colors are formed by passing light through Diode or a tube. LCD monitors work by blocking light(sorta...keep reading). By sandwiching a solution of TN liquid crystals between two perpendicularly aligned panes of polarized glass, it becomes possible to manipulate the intensity of light as it passes through this crystalline matrix and out the glass panel at the other end. Depending on the voltage of the electrical charge running through them, liquid crystals will untwist so that the intensity of light able to pass through the second polarized pane is affected. Basically, these displays can switch between light states (where the liquid crystals are fully twisted) and dark states (where the liquid crystals are fully untwisted), or somewhere along the gray scale in between. Cathode Ray Tubes work in the same theory but execute much differently. Basic principles still apply though.

as you can probably guess all computer applications are displayed using additive colors and using an RGB color scale. CMYK color scales are faked using a lengthy algorithm. They aren't true.

the short of the lesson: White is maximum lightness and black is the absence of color.

white wolfgang · Feb 25, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23

We obviously cannot get pure wight in this game. So how do we get close? Heres were I became confused!
I went to Dye Trader and tried white dye(YSSS) and it looked silver. so i looked for a nicer color so i mixed R S S and got the same thing....then i tried PSS....then BSS.....then S. I died different peices of my armour these colors...but can you ttell wich ones wich?

Im confused

Konrow · Feb 25, 2006, 04:24 AM // 04:24

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Originally Posted by white wolfgang

We obviously cannot get pure wight in this game. So how do we get close? Heres were I became confused!
I went to Dye Trader and tried white dye(YSSS) and it looked silver. so i looked for a nicer color so i mixed R S S and got the same thing....then i tried PSS....then BSS.....then S. I died different peices of my armour these colors...but can you ttell wich ones wich?

Im confused

exactly how were you mixing? mixing consists of clicking dye and putting it onto another dye not onto the same armor as the other dye. it looks like wat you did was dye the armor and then dye it agin hoping for a mix, but thats not how it works.

white wolfgang · Feb 25, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21

I know how to mix...but with this armor(seems to be fissure cuz pants=Ysss and gloves=S) 2 silver dyes seem to negate the third color....My luck cuz i was looking for a very pale red but instead i got my shirt color.....Yes I know how to mix... You click one dye and then click on to the next Duh!

Poup_owns_you · Mar 13, 2006, 12:36 AM // 00:36

i did silver dye + the red necro armor ( dye remover ) and it made... Pink! a very nice shiny pink

lg5000 · Mar 13, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by white wolfgang

We obviously cannot get pure wight in this game. So how do we get close? Heres were I became confused!
I went to Dye Trader and tried white dye(YSSS) and it looked silver. so i looked for a nicer color so i mixed R S S and got the same thing....then i tried PSS....then BSS.....then S. I died different peices of my armour these colors...but can you ttell wich ones wich?

Im confused

The top is the purple + silver.. gloves are blue + silver.. I'm guessing the pants are just silver. Mesmer armor is just REALLY hard to dye..

brybry · Mar 13, 2006, 04:20 AM // 04:20

can sum1 post a SS on a "white" 15k glads that was dyed after its original color.

brybry · Mar 13, 2006, 04:24 AM // 04:24

nvm i looked at the posts be4 this

pegasux · Mar 13, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Lozza

The problem is that those of us, and there are a number of us around, who are experiementing with dye still do not fully understand how the base colour of the armour influences the resulting colour. Just when we think we have a hand on it we try something just a little more complex and the results are not what we expect.
We are working on it though. We will let you know if, or when, we manage to come up with something useful.

Thanks lady =). question. If I use dye remover on my white/gold armor now will it take all of the dye off including some of the base color?

Tigris Of Gaul · Mar 14, 2006, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by Raeven1

Must have Combo.....

This is great... has anyone been able to duplicate it?

Misz_Piggie · Mar 14, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23

maybe if i do all the colors, maybe ill get black

FireMountain · Mar 14, 2006, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Can someone tell me why they won't make a white dye or heck don't call it dye call it bleach.

As for mixing they can follow true color scales and program that in, don't know if this would mess with their reflections of color and shaddowing. Perhaps reflections off of white are difficult I don't know.

Always got me that they didn't have white in this game. Black really doesn't work all that well don't see why it's so valuable.